
Man Group's Ellis sees hedge fund industry outflows | 
       
      Date:  Tuesday, October 25, 2011
      Author: Laurence Fletcher, Reuters    
    
 Investors are likely to pull money out of hedge funds in the fourth quarter, 
said Man Group's head of multi-manager Luke Ellis, after many funds suffered big 
losses this summer amidst the euro zone's deepening debt crisis. Ellis, who oversees $14.5 billion in assets at the world's biggest listed 
hedge fund manager, said that while redemptions across the $2 trillion industry 
have so far been muted despite poor returns, clients considering changing their 
portfolios may yet pull out. "There will be a lot of people feeling uncomfortable about performance over 
the last six months," he told journalists on Monday. "A lot of people are trying to work out what to do for year-end... I'd expect 
you'd see net redemptions from the average hedge fund over the fourth quarter." Ellis's comments come towards the end of a tricky year for the hedge fund 
industry, which is facing its second year of losses in four after a volatile 
summer for markets amidst fears over the euro zone's debt crisis and the 
possibility of another recession. The average fund is down 5.4 percent in the first nine months of the year, 
according to Hedge Fund Research's HFRI index. However, in contrast to the credit crisis, when clients pulled out almost 
$300 billion net in 2008 and 2009 according to HFR, outflows have so far not 
been widespread. Hedge funds actually saw a small net inflow of $8.7 billion in the third 
quarter, according to HFR, while GlobeOp's (GO.L) 
Forward Redemption Indicator -- a monthly snapshot of clients giving notice they 
want their cash back -- fell this month. However, Man Group itself last month said clients withdrew money over the 
summer at the fastest pace since early 2009, while star U.S. manager John 
Paulson, whose Advantage Plus fund is down 47 percent in the first nine months 
of the year, this month told investors as much as one-quarter of assets could 
depart in a "worst-case" scenario. Ellis declined to estimate outflows across the $2 trillion industry, and 
added that "if things get calmer" then investors -- presented with low bond 
yields and lower returns from equity markets -- could return to hedge funds. "There is an enormous amount of cash on the sidelines," he said. "You could see outflows at the end of October and November, and then a whole 
bunch of inflows on 1st January. That's entirely credible, depending on what 
happens. But you might not see the inflows." Ellis added that some managers nursing big losses may not necessarily suffer 
heavy outflows if clients have been prepared, and said it could be a good time 
to allocate to such funds. "If someone has been through a series of good up periods and told the client 
base that 'you've got to expect 25 percent drawdowns' ... it could be a good 
time to allocate money to them."
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